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2026-10-29 20:31:27

Lesley Carhart :unverified: via Cory Doctorow

hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

I really didn’t have money on Proton crashing and burning as a trusted community partner and company due to leadership AI psychosis this rapidly. It’s incredibly disappointing and a huge loss.

2026-10-29 20:32:43

azninsect

azninsect@kind.social

@hacks4pancakes ...ok what??

looking it up

2026-10-29 20:32:56

Colin Warren

cvwarren@m.ai6yr.org

@hacks4pancakes Those quotes from the CEO 😱

2026-10-29 20:33:54

Lesley Carhart :unverified:

hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

Nobody’s mad at the employees working there. We’re all super grateful for your efforts and sorry it’s ending like this.

2026-10-29 20:34:33

Ben Rush

continuity0@mastodon.social

@hacks4pancakes It’s so fucking disheartening and deflating when trying to reshape my tech footprint into something more moral and ethical. It seems to be getting harder with each passing hour

2026-10-29 20:34:53

sasutina13a is-a small exothermic chaos

sasutina13@lgbtqia.space

@hacks4pancakes Warning signs began appearing shortly after Proton's appearance in the states.

Very troubling.

I hope it is not a trend.

2026-10-29 20:36:15

LabSpokane

LabSpokane@mas.to

@hacks4pancakes It’s yet another cautionary tale about the mental health risks of chatbots.

2026-10-29 20:39:39

Ali

Ali@river.geek.nz

@hacks4pancakes Any recommendations you can make on where to look next? I'm literate enough to have my own instance on a managed hosting provider but not much more than that
Always happy to pay for a service so as not to be a product...

2026-10-29 20:53:02

ǝlqɯnɹ uoɯᴉS

shermozle@aus.social

@hacks4pancakes The bit berating a staff member for suggesting maybe they should spend some time testing the security of the slop code before shipping in their product whose entire reason to be is the privacy and security of its customers.

I mean sure, churn out your slop code for your shitty little shopping list app, but some things need stronger guarantees perhaps?

I say this as someone with an app in each of the mobile app stores that is completely slop generated. Also not important cornerstones to anyone's privacy.

2026-10-29 21:08:55

John H :zenbrowser: :linux:

mrclark@infosec.exchange

@hacks4pancakes This really sucks. I've been moving away from Google services as much as possible and purchased a subscription for Proton Unlimited back in March. Guess I need to start looking for alternatives. I have a couple custom domains. Been using Proton Drive for my photo backups from my GrapheneOS Pixel. Use calendar app. Not much else. Any recommended alternatives that are privacy friendly, no AI BS, etc?

2026-10-29 21:11:12

chris actual

lackattack@mastodon.social

@hacks4pancakes My family was looking to get off gmail and were considering proton but now that its staunchly pro-radioactive ai slop, I'll keep looking

2026-10-29 21:19:06

ozamidas

ozamidas@mastodon.social

@hacks4pancakes how little love do they have over doing things right, another Mozilla in our hands

2026-10-29 21:42:30

panu

shadowdancer@mstdn.social

@hacks4pancakes
If you just need a secure email, why not try Tuta? [1] The mobile app is not as flashy as Proton's but it works and I've been quite happy with it.

I believe they have a rather strict no-AI stance too.

Also the paid plan lets you create 15(?) different emails pointing to the same inbox. It's pretty useful when you don't want to use the same emal everywhere.

[1] tuta.com

2026-10-29 21:52:12

YurkshireLad

YurkshireLad@mastodon.social

@hacks4pancakes sounds like he has AFP - AI FOMO Psychosis.

2026-10-29 22:30:19

DDD

senslayer@mastodon.social

@hacks4pancakes got me thinking about hosting my own webmail but i'm terrified of spam

2026-10-29 22:31:29

azninsect

azninsect@kind.social

@hacks4pancakes proton had already kicked itself previously, just when i was about to switch to them...

this is just me looking at them going "nice to break BOTH your kneecaps now"

2026-10-29 23:15:36

Brev

brev@infosec.exchange

@hacks4pancakes at least they were kind enough to do it before my unlimited sub renews lmao

2026-10-29 23:25:11

Dave

Laird_Dave@chaos.social

@hacks4pancakes I had written them off when I heard about the CEO being 'anti-woke' (aka pro-fash), that must have been 1 or 2 years ago. Seems I was right.

2026-10-29 23:31:12

Dany :verified:

Dany@hsnl.social

@hacks4pancakes It's one thing to fully embrace AI (which on its own is already disappointing). But disregarding any and all concerns about quality or security of the product just for the sake of AI is going full Elon.

The toxic leadership culture on top of that is no surprise to me now. Can't wait for the men coming out with the defense that "without strong leadership, you can't innovate".

2026-10-29 23:34:15

Bogdan Buduroiu

budududuroiu@hachyderm.io

@hacks4pancakes If you're not using AI to endlessly pentest your software (especially privacy-preserving software), your opps are 100% doing it and you're ngmi

2026-10-29 23:47:17

Mono

mono@mastodon.world

@hacks4pancakes Even worse then his last meltdown but where to go? Even with slop integration I currently don’t see alternatives that come even close in general use for mail and vpn.

Hell I even have problems to replace their own manager not fan per say but it was so dead simple that even elderly none tech people got it.